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HP Pavilion with Ubuntu 10.10

I’ve been asked for an update of my experiences with my HP Pavilion dv6 3042TX – in particular with Ubuntu. A reader has found that this notebook can now be purchased here in Australia for $1,299. That is a fine price indeed! At that price, I would have considered “self insuring” and not spending the addition $200 or so on an extended warranty. However, I must say that I sometimes have regrets about not getting a Mac. Here are some of my experiences and advice:

The good

  • Aesthetics are good. Quite a good looking laptop. Not as nice as the MacBook Pro.
  • Quad-core. 8G RAM. 1G graphics.
  • The keyboard is fine (our reader had heard otherwise). Compared with MBP it even has PgUp and PgDn keys :)
  • Touchpad is fine (again, not sure why our reader would have heard otherwise). Not quite as nice as the MacBook Pro touchpad though – particularly for scrolling.
  • Some ports that MacBooks don’t have: HDMI out, eSATA out, fingerprint reader, blu-ray.
  • Running GeekBench on Ubuntu 10.10 can yeld up to 6300 so I assume that it is more performant than Windows 7 (which gets about 5600).

The bad

  • Battery life is only 1.5hr – just for light web-browsing tasks
  • When running Ubuntu 64-bit you will run into the 100% CPU problem caused by the npviewer.bin. AFAIK it’s a program that helps interoperate with the 32-bit Adobe Flash plugin because there’s no 64-bit one for Linux yet…
  • The fingerprint reader isn’t used for authentication out-of-the-box on Ubuntu 10.10 although I haven’t searched for any solution (pain threshold too low).

The ugly

  • It runs hot. Even when doing little cpu-intensive work the fans turns on and it sounds like it’s going to take off! I’ve had one or two blue-screens of death which I imagine are related to the heat. Lately I’ve been using FlashBlock which seems to have improved things somewhat.
  • With Ubuntu 10.10 after resuming from hibernate I get odd graphics flickering “effects” which is particularly bad when dragging or playing video. Basically you will end up rebooting. I have found no solution for this.
  • With Ubuntu 10.10 the touchpad will not work well. Dragging sends the pointer crazy and right click does not work at all. I found a solution https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+source/linux/+bug/582809/comments/94 but unfortunately now the pointer moves too slowly and increasing the sensitivity does not work.

Advice

Stick with Ubuntu 10.04

The touchpad problems didn’t happen with Ubuntu 10.04 and I’m fairly certain that the screen flickering following a resume didn’t occur either. So if you’re going to install Ubuntu, I’d currently recommend 10.04.

Run Windows 7 (with Ubuntu 10.10 in a box)

This is the option I’ve currently adopted. This way I have no problems with Google Chrome and the npviewer.bin because there’s a 64-bit version of flash. It also has other good effects such as being able to run the latest version of Skype, have my fingerprint reader work for logging in (this is quite a time saver because I tend to use strong passwords). Of course, to get software development done I installed Ubuntu 10.10 with VirtualBox. In this way I have no problems with the touchpad. Running the operating system that the manufacturer intended has certainly caused less headaches (and time wasters). Using VirtualBox seems quite performant and I’m not stuck with a compromise such as Cygwin.

Plea to Canoncial and manufacturers

Perhaps it’s just that 10.10 is a disaster (at least running native/raw on HP hardware) but I can’t help but think that it’s imperative that Canonical find a way to have manufacturers buy into Ubuntu and test/preinstall it on their hardware. There was a time when Dell were doing this at least in the US and EU (but even then only on a small subset of their range). I used to enjoy the days of searching for solutions for hardware problems, diving into configuration files and configuring X etc. I learnt a lot through those experiences. However, now that I’m older I suppose, I value my time more. I hear this argument from Apple fan boys all the time. Unfortunately it’s true. I do think that Linux and Ubuntu in particular is a better software development platform. The weath of software available using APT is a big part of that. Also that APT uses binary packages. Easy software installations isn’t so important if you don’t experiment with new programming languages and libraries etc that often.

Buy a Mac :)

The other option is, of course, to buy a MacBook. Since I already have an iMac in case I need more power, I’ve been thinking about purchasing a 11″ MacBook Air next year. I’ve tested one in-store an it seems quite nimble for such a little beast and the screen resolution is the same as my current laptop – 1366×768. I’d certainly have no more need for my 11.6″ netbook (which won’t run Ubuntu Unity btw because of gma500/poulbo graphics driver issues – sigh!). Perhaps the 11″ wouldn’t cut it for Java development though. I haven’t tried IntelliJ on it in-store yet. A fine but more expensive option is the 13″ MacBook Air. The same resolution as a 15″ MacBook Pro. Currently the 13″ MacBook Air will set up back $2,078.00 including 4G RAM and 3 year warranty. If I had to choose again right now, I’d be picking between 11 and 13 inch MacBook Airs.

Since I won’t be purchasing a new notebook until next year, I am hoping that the rumoured April MacBook Pro update will make the decision easier. Hoping for higher resolution displays like MacBook Air, cheaper flash/ssd storage option, quad-cores, Mac OS X Lion and cheaper 8G RAM option. Hopefully a combination of Apple and a rising AUD can deliver. It’s quite possible that the AUD could come crashing down before then though :(.

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  1. Krangsquared
    November 28, 2010 at 16:15 | #1

    Thanks for the update, Steven. Really informative! Is the batter life still that dismal even when you use Windows? That is just a shocker. Maybe battery would last longer if the CPU was an i5. The setup I’m contemplating will have an SSD, but a 512Gb one would add +$1000 to the price! The Macbook Pro option then gets *much* more expensive. I might just wait and see what we get when Apple updates those models. Or maybe I should just get a Macbook, max memory, then SSD drive.

    • November 28, 2010 at 18:46 | #2

      Yes that’s 1.5 hours using Windows 7! If you can wait to see what Apple does with the update next April then I would do that. Otherwise consider the MacBook Air 13″. AFAIK the flash storage is the same you’d get inside an SSD but faster because it’s on the main board (could be wrong about that). Also MBA 13″ has the 1440×900 resolution like the MBP 15″.

      • December 3, 2010 at 07:53 | #3

        FWiW, I just ordered a MacBook Air 13″ from JB Hi-Fi. I was just testing it out when they made a great offer. The base system is $1598 ($1 off the RRP). Free upgrade to 4G RAM (saving $150)! $299 for Apple Care ($30 off). Almost $200 off the RRP.
        Total: $1897.

      • Paul
        January 8, 2011 at 14:27 | #4

        err On mine I get at lest 5 hours of battery live using word and webrowsing on windows 7

      • January 8, 2011 at 14:59 | #5

        Paul, do you the same model as me? HP Pavilion dv6 3042TX. It’s a quad-core. It’s possible that I have a dud. I haven’t spoken to HP support but plan to next week. Also, it’s possible that my web-browsing usage is different from yours. For instance, I currently have open 10 Google Chrome windows with a total of 65 tabs. None are running video at the moment but at least one has a video loaded and paused.

        One thing I noticed that really heated it up and gave it trouble was a simple OpenGL demo that I had running in a window. One of the times the machine shut itself down (to prevent overheating) was when this demo was running in the background. Another time it was a just a YouTube or Vimeo video or two and some web pages.

  2. Chris
    August 20, 2011 at 00:26 | #6

    I second buying a Mac too. I dual boot mine with Fedora 15 and OSX, just so I can still use a linux flavour.

    Fedora runs well, except for two points: 1. the power management isn’t that good, so I get about 3 hours on the battery instead of 7-8 hours (and it runs noticeably warmer) and 2. on battery the display backlight keeps keeps on becoming quite dark. I have only worked around the backlight issue in a somewhat dodgy way with a small script to periodically ‘brighten’ the script (yuk.. i know..)

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